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Canadian Real Estate Investing Morning Show


Aug 25, 2025

🎧 Should You Refinance Or Pay Off Your Mortgage?

Real Estate Investing Morning Show – Hosted by Wayne & Gabby Hillier

Today’s episode dives into one of the most common questions real estate investors face: should you pay off your mortgages and enjoy the security of free-and-clear properties, or should you refinance, access equity, and reinvest to grow your portfolio? Wayne and Gabby share real-life examples, talk through the math, and discuss how different goals, stages of life, and investing mindsets affect the decision.


🧠 What You'll Learn in This Episode

  • Why investors struggle with the refinance vs. pay-off decision

  • How equity can be β€œdead money” if it isn’t working for you

  • The importance of calculating your return on equity (ROE)

  • When refinancing makes sense and when it doesn’t

  • The risks of overleveraging and how to avoid them

  • The role of the 5% Ruleβ„’ cash flow test in protecting your portfolio

  • Why cash flow matters more at different stages of life

  • How lifestyle choices, mindset, and long-term goals shape your decision


πŸ‘₯ About Your Hosts

Wayne & Gabby Hillier are full-time real estate investors and coaches based in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada. Through their REI Masters Mentorship Program, they help Canadians build long-term wealth using rental properties, BRRRRs, flips, joint ventures, and creative real estate strategies.

New episodes every weekday morning featuring real stories, coaching moments, and tactical investing advice.


πŸ’‘ Resources & Contact

Learn about our Mentorship Program: www.reimasters.ca
Bookkeeping & tax help: www.finngo.com/rei
Submit a question: info@reimorningshow.com

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🀝 Thanks to Our Sponsors

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